Combines: Improved Vital Strike and Greater Vital Strike. Share. hogarth : Jan 21, 2010, 12:08 pm: Evil Lincoln wrote: I looked at the tables first after reading Vital Strike and I encountered less confusion. Cleave is a feat in Pathfinder: Kingmaker.. feat. Personally, I'll probably houserule Vital Strike to some degree when we get back to Pathfinder in my home game.-Skeld. You cannot take a Standard Action during a turn that you take a Full Round Action. Anyways my question is, in your opinion, which one easily facilitates for big damage. Or Vital Strike. (Fractional BAB) (Fractional saves) A PFRPG character build. Just my 2c. Once per round, before he makes an attack of opportunity, he can declare it to be a vital punishment. Also - probably melee, not ranged. Especially with TB mod. It is the same for the Vital Strike action actually - the devs have already said that Vital Strike cannot be combined with Cleave because both of them require a standard action to be activated (Vital Strike requires an 'Attack Action', which is a specific Standard action); this is another example of combo which is not allowed. You can't take two Standard actions in one round. My group likes Vital Strike. It's especially good if you tend to make lots of single attacks with things like Vital Strike or Cleave. Things that aren't usually good... #10. ... At 6th level, Eldritch Fangs and Vital Strike are added to the list. Scale weapon dice with legendary+lead blades Flesh Colossus Edit Page Content. The weapon's damage dice is multiplied by 4. Mr Fletch. At that moment, all of the available targets are checked to make sure they adjacent to each other and within reach. 3) How about a charge? pick up the feats power attack and furious focus. At 10th level, Multiattack and Improved Vital Strike are added to the list. Assuming you are using a melee weapon, you can combine either with Power Attack though. Benefit: When you use the attack action, you can make one attack at your highest base attack bonus that deals additional damage. Charge is a Full Round Action that is part of an attack. This feat gives the character an ability to perform the sunder armor combat maneuver. this gives you high damage attacks that will actually hit, unlike dual wielding with your crappy atttack bonuses. The most effective Vital Strike build I've seen was a Barbarian with the Furious Finish. It lets you use cleave and Vital Strike together, albeit the vital strike is at one feat chain down. The vital strike line is generally considered a trap, and rightly so. Greater Vital Strike : Combat : BAB 16, Vital Strike, Imp. If you hit, you deal damage normally and can make an additional attack (using your full base attack bonus) against a foe that is adjacent to the first and also within reach. Post Mar 21, 2010 #1 2010-03-21T15:58. So potentially that's 8 attacks at your highest AB if you are Medium, and up to a whopping 32 possible attacks if you are Large and surrounded by enemies. Roll the weapon's damage dice for the attack three times and add the results together before adding bonuses from Strength, weapon special abilities (such as flaming ), precision based damage, and other damage bonuses. Prerequisite: Strength 13 (or greater), Cleave, and Power Attack Benefits: If you make a melee attack, and your target drops to 0 or fewer hit points as a result of your attack, you can make another melee attack using your highest base attack bonus against another opponent within reach. Pathfinder: Kingmaker > General Discussions > Topic Details. then decide on whether you want to go with great cleave or vital strike, or maybe spring attack. 138. This enormous monstrosity looks like a pile of fresh Humanoid bodies shoved into a shambling Humanoid shape. 138. #11. * Home; Bestiary; Flesh Colossus ; Flesh Colossus Source: Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document ↓ Attributes. Vital strike damage procs to cleaving finishes, so… She’s pretty much a human fireball with enough AC stacked to actually be on the frontlines. +1. However, we keep getting confused on how it works. EDIT: ninja'ed by Bertious. Extra damage from sources that wouldn’t normally be multiplied on a critical hit isn’t multiplied by this feat. Vital Punishment (Ex): The vigilante gains Vital Strike as a bonus feat, though he does not have to meet the prerequisites for this feat. Cleave, Power Attack, Vital Strike, Weapon Focus (greatclub) Intimidate +11, Perception +9, Survival +9-2 penalty to Charisma-based skills per deformity, except +2 bonus to Intimidate checks per deformity. So potential is enormous. As a standard action, you can make a single attack at your full base attack bonus against a foe within reach. You CANNOT use Vital Strike with spellstrike method #2. 1) Is the extra weapon dice itself multiplied on a critical hit? Vital Strike and Cleave are both Standard Actions that are part of an attack. Vital Strike requires you to use the Attack action, which is a type of Standard action that involves making a melee attack. As a standard action, you can make a single attack at your full base attack bonus against a foe within reach. Continue this thread level 2. (Greater) Cleave is another Standard action type altogether, meaning you can't use both at the same time. Path of the Fletcher. Cleave Make an Edit Report a Problem Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook You can strike two adjacent foes with a single swing. Effects [edit | edit source]. get weapon finesse, and an agile elven curve blade. respectively. Effect: When using Vital Strike, you now roll the weapon’s damage dice for the attack three times and add the results together. When your BAB reaches +16, you roll the weapon's damage dice four times and add them together. Great Cleave upgrades it so that you can strike multiple adjacent enemies with a single Cleave. Power Attack You can choose to take a -1 penalty on all melee attack rolls and combat maneuver checks to gain a +2 bonus on all melee damage rolls. It cannot be used on a charge, with spring attack, with a full attack or pretty much anything else. Pathfinder > Vital Strike Feat Question . Prerequisites: Str 13, Power Attack, Cleave, Vital Strike, base attack bonus +8. Confirming the critical hit here gives you far more damage than a Vital Strike would, since you also get to multiply your Strength and other weapon damage bonuses, so it's a pretty solid way to spend a standard action. Share with: Link: Copy link. Cleave is a Feat in Pathfinder: Kingmaker. You cannot take a 5-foot step in the middle of the action and check conditions again. Specifically, on table 8-2 (p183) there is a master table of "all" actions. Feats can give your character various bonus or allow them to perform all sorts of actions. 1: Slayer (1) Ankou's Shadow 2: Slayer (2) 3: Slayer (3) 4: Slayer (4) 5: Slayer (5) No. Greater Vital Strike Prerequisite: Vital Strike, BAB +11. Mr Fletch. Feats can give your character various bonus or allow them to perform all sorts of actions. At 6th level, Furious Focus and Great Cleave are added to the list. Notabot187. Pathfinder Great Cleave is a mix between D&D Cleave and Whirlwind Attack (which is not in this game). While holding the charge of a touch spell, you can perform an attack action and apply both Vital Strike and the spell effect on the attack. With Furious Finish, he could maximize his damage on that one attack, for 70 damage a round. EvilDonut Jul 24, 2019 @ 12:27am ... Or Cleave. It also grants a +2 bonus to CMB when performing this maneuver, and a +2 bonus to CMD when defending against it. Pathfinder Compendium. Pathfinder: Kingmaker > General Discussions > Topic Details. It should double the damage from a single strike, while Improved Vital Strike should triple it. Prerequisites: Vital Strike, base attack bonus +11. Pink Eye (Banned) Nov 16, 2019 @ 2:00pm Cleave vs Vital Strike I'm assuming these two don't stack, right? Mythic Vital Strike: Whenever you use Vital Strike, [..] multiply the Strength bonus, magic bonus, and other bonuses that would normally be multiplied on a critical hit by the number of weapon damage dice you roll for that feat. Like piledriver, it's kind of a shame you don't get devastating blow earlier, as it'd do a lot to make you more mobile on the battlefield while keeping your damage respectable. 1 post Vital Strike Feat Question Vital Strike Feat Question . Feat Type(s) Combat; Prerequisites. Moderators:crowroadaw , seankreynolds. As a standard action, you can make a single attack at your full base attack bonus against a foe within reach. Classes. Isn't it like cleave - you click it and target an enemy to use it? Str 13 Power Attack; base attack bonus +1 Benefit. 3 years ago. Sunder Armor is a Feat in Pathfinder: Kingmaker. Shadenuat Jul 24, 2019 @ 8:13am U can make them good. If the attack hits, the vigilante can apply the Vital Strike feat. Minimum 1 pt, right? Type to search for a spell, item, class — anything! Vital Strike & Improved Vital Strike: Unfortunately this is bugged currently and it seems to never happen. Cleave is a special action and the conditions for that action are checked at the moment you begin your action. Awesome. When you strike down an opponent, you can continue your swing into another target. Vital Strike : As a standard action, make a full BAB attack for extra damage. Thanks for the quick response. Assume that the character is a two handed fighter, using a two handed weapon, with high STR. You can use Vital Strike with spellstrike method #1. don't take this archetype. Vital Strike Power Attack Calculator. Once it is patched, it will be useful. At 12th level, with an enlarged battle axe (3d6), Improved Vital Strike and Devastating Strike, he was doing 3d6+6 and 6d6 from the Vital Strike tree. Quote: [*]Cleave[*]Great Cleave These are okay feats, but not great by any means, and as characters grow more powerful they'll outgrow them. It allows attacking as many targets in your reach at your highest AB as you can successively hit. 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